(ENG/SPA) Joker Folie a Deux is a kick in the nuts? MAX Review
Many films seek to leave a message, based on this I think the important thing is that the message is understood, as this is mixed with narratives as they have to have an attractive dynamic to see and to facilitate the understanding of the message to be conveyed but it becomes a kick in the balls when they try to raise something so smart that falls into the absurdity drowning a character who screams to be heard either for good or for bad.
Joker Folie a Deux is a film available in MAX where I consider that unfortunately a character was drowned, mutilated, mistreated and we did not see his true end, my intention is to invite you to see the film because I think you can enjoy and entertain but pay attention to the message you want to convey because that is where the story collapses despite having many good points that I will also name because it did have elements to highlight.
Muchas películas buscan dejar un mensaje, en base a esto pienso que lo importante es que se entienda ese mensaje, como esto se mezcla con narrativas pues tienen que tener una dinámica atractiva de ver y que facilite el entendimiento de ese mensaje que se quiere transmitir pero vaya que se vuelve una patada en las pelotas cuando tratan de plantear algo tan inteligente que se cae en el absurdo ahogando un personaje que grita por ser escuchado ya sea para bien o para mal.
Joker Folie a Deux es un film disponible en MAX donde considero que lamentablemente se ahogo, se mutilo, se maltrato un personaje del cual no vimos su verdadero final, mi intención es invitarte a ver el film porque considero te puede agradar y entretener pero atención al mensaje que quiere transmitir porque es allí donde la historia colapsa a pesar de tener muchos puntos a favor que también nombrare porque si que tuvo elementos a destacar.
- The Manipulators and The Submissives in Folie a Deux
I defend these two actors, I see them and I am amazed by the presence of both, of course Joaquin Phoenix takes the attention of the screen but Lady Gaga for me fulfilled that element Harley attractive and that in this case is played with being manipulative, they both as actors I consider that they do not fail.
I think there are two types of people, The Manipulators and The Submissive but each individual has a spectrum of these two elements only that in each being the balance can weigh much more on one side than the other where what defines the intention is the situation.
The problem is that what I see in the film is like a lake without water, that is, the idea is attractive because we can transfer it to our daily life where we see manipulators and submissives everywhere but the Joker is not allowed to explode so the idea is half-baked and negatively affects the whole story.
- Los Manipuladoras y Las Sumisas en Folie a Deux
Defiendo estos dos actores, yo los veo y quedo asombrado ante la presencia de ambos, claro está Joaquin Phoenix se lleva la atención de la pantalla pero Lady Gaga para mi cumplió con ese elemento Harley atractivo y que en este caso se juega con ser manipulador, ellos dos como actores considero que no fallan
Pienso que hay dos tipos de personas, Las Manipuladoras y Las Sumisas pero cada individuo tiene un espectro de estos dos elementos solo que en cada ser la balanza puede pesar mucho mas de un lado que del otro donde lo que define la intención es la situación.
El problema esta en que lo que yo veo en el film es como un Lago sin Agua, es decir, la idea planteada es atractiva porque podemos trasladarla a nuestro día a día donde vemos manipuladores y sumisos en todos lados pero no se deja al Joker explotar entonces la idea se queda a medias y afecta negativamente toda la historia.
- It is a film in which there is no Third Final Act
I think Todd Phillips wanted to be so smart that he fell into stupidity with this plot twist because I see a solid initial approach that reminds us of the depressing situation of the protagonist Artur Fleck but when it comes time to show the violence, the chaos, the total rampage of a society that calls for destruction, Todd simply retracts, apologizes, is afraid to show it and leaves the film basically without a third act.
That's why I defend Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix because they both have what it takes to make the audience explode into the madness of these characters Arthur and Quinzel but it is their Director who Atrophies them to a point where the characters disappear from the film.
- The Message is Crystal for the Crystal Generation
I consider that the worst of the film is the message because it is as if Todd Phillips regretted having given us the Joker we saw in the first film, it seems that he had an epiphany of crystal, of peace in which the ideal is not to harm and that the best thing is peace, I do not know at what point this film became to place again and again the cheek to smash your face a truck of bad intentions and bad manipulative people without the right to defend yourself.
I was almost convulsing in front of my pc screen due to the message that came to me from this film.
- Es un Film en el que no hay ese Tercer Acto Final
Pienso que Todd Phillips quiso ser tan inteligente que cayo en estupidez con esto de los plot twist porque si veo un solido planteamiento inicial que nos recuerda la situación deprimente del protagonista Artur Fleck pero cuando llega el momento de mostrar la violencia, el caos, el desenfreno total de una sociedad que pide destrucción pues Todd simplemente se retracta, se disculpa, le da miedo mostrarlo y deja al film básicamente sin tercer acto.
Por eso defiendo a Lady Gaga y a Joaquin Phoenix porque ambos tienen lo necesario para hacer explotar a la audiencia en la locura de estos personajes Arthur y Quinzel pero es su Director quien los Atrofia a un punto en que los personajes desaparecen del film.
- El Mensaje es de Cristal para la Generación de Cristal
Considero que lo peor del film es el mensaje porque es como si Todd Phillips se arrepintiera de habernos dado el Joker que vimos en el primer film, pareciera que el tuviera una epifanía de cristal, de paz en el que lo ideal es no hacer daño y que lo mejor es la paz, no se en que momento este film se volvió colocar una y otra vez la mejilla para que te destroce la cara un camión de malas intenciones y de malas personas manipuladoras sin derecho a defenderte.
Es que de verdad ese mensaje es atroz, estaba casi que convulsionando frente a la pantalla de mi pc debido al mensaje que llego a mi de este film.
- Leigh Gill is the best of the film
Incredibly the message that I criticize so much is linked to the best performance and scene of the film which is with this actor named Leigh Gill who plays Gary Puddles, in him I see the fear of that society that fears violence and does not understand how a Joker that generates Chaos in the first film can be so accepted and loved by the masses.
Just his character is the execution of the message that I hated but his performance was with so much feeling, he transmitted his panic, his trauma if I got to make me reflect and accept that unfortunately there are people who in their defense for peace would accept any treatment or mistreatment.
I don't agree with your message Gary Puddles but I also give you a kiss on the forehead because your performance conveyed many feelings and left me thoughtful.
- I did not like most of the dances
This is the most commercial part of the film, as I liked that so much in the one, in this one there are choreographies to the max, there were one or two that I liked but it was too much, it distracted me from the film unnecessarily and the worst thing is that you have Lady Gaga and they waste her in this film.
A film to which I give 2 Chiquitos out of 10, one of the worst I've seen in 2024, a pathetic idea for pathetic crystal people that does not go with me at all that ideal but within the tastes you may like it and therefore I will not do as many who do not recommend watching films that they did not like, in my case I encourage you greatly to see this film that may if you like it and if so I will be very happy, I say goodbye and I leave you kiss on the forehead of love and peace.
- Leigh Gill es lo mejor del Film
Increíblemente el mensaje que tanto critico esta enlazado a la mejor actuación y escena de la película que es con este actor llamado Leigh Gill el cual interpreta a Gary Puddles, en el veo el miedo de esa sociedad que teme a la violencia y que no comprende como un Joker que genera el Chaos en el primer film pueda ser tan aceptado y querido por las masas.
Justamente su personaje es la ejecución del mensaje que deteste pero su actuación fue con tanto sentimiento, me transmitió su pánico, su trauma si llego a hacerme reflexionar y aceptar que lamentablemente hay personas que en su defensa por la paz aceptarían cualquier trato o maltrato.
No estoy de acuerdo con tu mensaje Gary Puddles pero también te doy un besito en la frente porque tu actuación me transmitió muchos sentimientos y me dejo pensativo.
- Deteste la mayoría de los Bailes en el film
Esta es la parte mas comercial del film, como gusto tanto eso en la uno pues en este hay coreografías a mas no poder, hubo una o dos que me agradaron pero es que fue demasiado, me distrajo del film innecesariamente y lo peor es que tienes a Lady Gaga y la desaprovechan en esta película.
Un film al que le doy 2 Chiquitos de 10, de lo peor que he visto en el 2024, una idea patética para gente de cristal patética que para nada va conmigo ese ideal pero dentro de los gustos puede te agrade y por eso no haré como muchos que no recomiendan ver films que no les gustaron, en mi caso te animo enormemente a ver esta película que puede si te agrade y si es así me alegrará enormemente, me despido y te dejo besito en la frente de amor y paz.
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The only thing I saw about this movie is that the internet trashed it (and I see you did too 🤣) the truth is I was never interested in watching it honestly, but I found your post very entertaining.
is that WoW where was the violence... I missed it in this film ☹️
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Ese mensaje del que hablas me sacó lágrimas. Lo valioso de cada film y lo que siempre destaco es la capacidad de muchos directores para enganchar o desenganchar a la audiencia. Hay tantas criticas y tantos puntos de vista sobre Jokie que me hace pesar lo siguiente: Es un éxito! jajaja
A mi me gustó mucho. Volvería a verla y te aseguro que lograría captar otros mensajes.
Gracias por tu valioso aporte.
Believe me that I am very happy girl that the message of the film has reached you in feelings because it is a good message of many feelings, so in my case who best conveyed that message in my opinion was the little boy in whom I saw his great fear and panic, I really liked his performance.
I leave you a kiss on your forehead for your beautiful feelings, you are a good person in peace and soul 🤗
hahahahaha the dance rate that you give to this movie is funny. I think joker are so overrated. In my opinion once something is done twice, that's enough for a character to be explored. It's really hard to make shows/film that are great and with Joker case, not only the internet trashed it but it's bad to keep following momentum but creating a piece of crap for us to consume.
WoW is that many things leave me thoughtful about the film because I have read those who liked it and leave me thoughtful, reflecting .... but then I think about what I saw and I convulse hahaha 😅
Yes, it is very difficult to keep the rhythm of characters and at some point they decay, decadence is a universal rule that unfortunately reached the Joker, I regret because I wanted to see something from Gaga that left me sighing as in the performance of her with Bradley Cooper in A Star is Born, she is a lot of feelings but my expectations will remain in just that .... in seeing what could have been ☹️
esta segunda parte no la he visto, no me llamó la atención. Tal vez deba darle una oportunidad
I hope you like it boy, it has its good things and an intention that was not as expected but it may please you 😊
Vi tantas malas criticas de esta película que tanto espere que me hizo desistir de verla pero, después de un tiempo de ser estrenada la vi. Sin la parte musical y otra vuelta de tureca hubiera estado genial pero nose... no me termina de cerrar. Este no es el joker y ella no es la Harley que conozco ... Sentí que la historia traba mas de defenestrar el personaje del joker, empoderar a Harley y admirar el despliegue de pasos y voz de Gaga jajaja
that's why I try to avoid seeing reviews before watching the movie or series because it is inevitable to affect or influence the mood to see haha, that's why I saw the film with the maximum emotion as when I saw the one and WoW the final run of the film is atrocious and that feeling that I was recorded haha 😅
It is that it does not close because it is a film that lacks a third act, there is none, what made the first Joker explode as a film is The Violence in the Murray scene, here there is not that necessary violence of the character....